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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:51, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mass ethnic violence in Postcolonial Africa

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This page appears to link together a number of conflicts which don't appear to be grouped together in any particular source. Its scope has also been changed by a page move in the past day from "genocides in central Africa" to "mass ethnic violence in postcolonial Africa". In either case it looks like a WP:SYNTH of unrelated events.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previously nominated via WP:PROD, ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:02, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I'll hold off !voting on this as I'm not quite clear how this is not a content/title dispute. There's more than adequate scholarly work that examines and compares genocide/mass killings in post-colonial Africa.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]

References

  1. ^ Stapleton, Timothy J. (2017). A history of genocide in Africa. Santa Barbara, California: Praeger. ISBN 9781440830525.
  2. ^ McDoom, Omar (2010). "War and Genocide in Africa's Great Lakes since Independence". In Bloxham, Donald; Moses, A. Dirk (eds.). The Oxford Handbook of Genocide Studies. Oxford University Press.
  3. ^ Scherrer, Christian P. (2002). Genocide and crisis in Central Africa : conflict roots, mass violence, and regional war. Westport, Conn.: Praeger. ISBN 9780275972240.
  4. ^ Howard-Hassmann, Rhoda (2005). "Genocide and State-Induced Famine: Global Ethics and Western Responsibility for Mass Atrocities in Africa". Perspectives on Global Development and Technology. 4 (3): 487–516. doi:10.1163/156915005775093269. It discusses colonial genocide in South-West Africa and Congo; post-colonial genocide in Rwanda and Darfur; and state-induced famine in Ethiopia and Zimbabwe.
  5. ^ du Preez, Peter (1997). "In search of genocide: A comparison of Rwanda and South Africa". Peace and Conflict: Journal of Peace Psychology. 3 (3): 245–259. doi:10.1207/s15327949pac0303_3.
  6. ^ Badru, Pade (2010). "ETHNIC CONFLICT AND STATE FORMATION IN POST-COLONIAL AFRICA: A COMPARATIVE STUDY OF ETHNIC GENOCIDE IN THE CONGO, LIBERIA, NIGERIA, AND RWANDA-BURUNDI". Journal of Third World Studies. 27 (2): 149–169. ISSN 8755-3449.
  7. ^ Lemarchand, René (2009). The dynamics of violence in central Africa. Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press. ISBN 9780812202595.
  8. ^ Straus, Scott (2015). Making and Unmaking Nations : War, Leadership, and Genocide in Modern Africa. Ithaca: Cornell University Press. ISBN 9780801455674.

Is the argument here that the article is irredeemable, ie WP:TNT? Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 05:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - @Goldsztajn: the article has been prodded twice, by El cid, el campeador and by Brigade Piron, under the "Genocides in central Africa" title, and now it's been moved. I guess per the sources you quote above, it might be possible to construct a coherent article from the topic in question, but either way this article isn't it. It's just a series of paragraphs about unrelated events, with no attempt to tie them together into any single narrative. So yes, I guess it's WP:TNT. I suggest deleting until someone has the time or inclination to write a proper article on the subject and can defend why it's notable.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:57, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, per nom. I agree there is nothing to salvage in this stub. Putting aside the rather nomenclature of a "postcolonial" era, what exactly is "mass ethnic violence"? Does any ethnic violence count? Or is there some kind of subjective judgment about what "mass" means? —Brigade Piron (talk) 21:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete @Amakuru: thank you for the clarification. Given that Genocides in postcolonial Africa (and variations thereof) redirect here, a suitably appropriate article could be created there. Given the inappropriate use of mass ethic violence in the title and the OR contents, delete is justified. While I'm personally also of the view that postcolonial itself is a problematic term, unfortunately, while not always, it is today predominant. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 03:31, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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